Was djh_ involved with the making of the Voddler skin? It sure looks a lot like Aeon!
#16
What does this have to with XBMC License ? This isn't an official XBMC Skin unless they used xbmc code to display it ..

I am bit surpised to see that djh_ wasn't involved in since it looks to be copy of his work .. What license was his skin released under ?
The normal XBMC log IS NOT a debug log, to enable debug logging you must toggle it on under XBMC Settings - System or in advancedsettings.xml. Use XBMC Debug Log Addon to retrieve it.
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#17
they use xbmc code
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#18
Here's an article about Voddler's technology (in Swedish though):

http://www.xbmc.nu/index.php?option=com_...t&Itemid=2

It states that Voddler is based on XBMC. Some interesting bits of information are that the Voddler Linux client will support hardware playback on Nvidia hardware (i e the VPAUD-support). Also, hopefully Voddler will contribute to XBMC so that XBMC can support Voddler feeds.

I'm very excited about Voddler as I've been looking for a streaming service with Linux support or even better, a streaming service that works with Linux XBMC. I'm a Bredbandsbolaget customer and applied to the beta -- hopefully I'll get in soon.
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I'm in :pBig Grin
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#20
spiff Wrote:obviously - we're gpl (and they are aware)

Are you also aware that the source code they have released does not build into a working Voddler client? (And thereby to my knowledge breaking the GPL)

Some interesting topics on the Voddler "forums":
http://getsatisfaction.com/voddler/topic...player_exe

http://getsatisfaction.com/voddler/topic...led_source
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#21
yes, we have written it off to retardness/lack of knowledge thus far. last time i check they haven't responded to our inqueries.
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#22
I would say they've been amply warned in the forums, I'd suggest a dead tree letter to their legal department. Be polite but make them understand that failing to comply with the license means they have no right to distribute the software, should you press the issue legally. As for the credibility of that threat, note that in Sweden copyright violation is in general a criminal offense and you can simply file a complaint with the public prosecutor. I'm hoping it won't come to that, but this company is very much aware that almost all of their software stack is GPL licensed.
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#23
There was a similar incident a while ago regarding Pioneer Etap:

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http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid...ht=pioneer

Whether it's based on xbmc or not it's a mistery, but it seems like a rip off of mediastream. No one ever shined any light on that which makes it more intriguing...
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#24
Well, it seems voddler has yet not updated the source code for the client released on jan 13th. Even though im not a xbmc dev this makes me royally pissed seeing them abuse the work of others. Why doesn't team xbmc take any legal actions? If its cause of lack of time id be happy to give Marie a call and explain what GPL terms they are violating.
Iv tried writing to some news papers hoping they will address this in the media but since its not gotten anyone killed, raped, or drug charged yet they simply choose to write about other stuff.
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#25
we don't have the resources + we have tried before and they don't respond.
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#26
spiff Wrote:we don't have the resources + we have tried before and they don't respond.

Maybe FSF does: see

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/compliance

and

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gp...ation.html

I think they could help.
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#27
gianco Wrote:Maybe FSF does: see

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/compliance

and

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gp...ation.html

I think they could help.

I think this one is better

http://gpl-violations.org/
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