Good points.
The only problem with MacGyver's approach is that it doesn't do much for new users with a large set of media spread out over multiple disks.
Also "recently added" could be left as it is by default, with an option added (you could stick the variable in advancedsettings to avoid cluttering the GUI) to toggle "recently added" to "recently acquired".
Add sort by date added on movies library mode?
booker88
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2010-10-04 08:51
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galvanash
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2010-10-04 09:04
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booker88 Wrote:The only problem with MacGyver's approach is that it doesn't do much for new users with a large set of media spread out over multiple disks. Actually, I read his post again... I had misunderstood it the first time, but I think my "misunderstood" version is better He was saying when a import was done sort by last modified date - what I thought he said was when a "Scan for New Items" was done on a source folder. If the files were sorted by last modified when scanning a source, they would end up being id'd in the proper order (more or less) - even for new users.That is assuming the scanner queues all the items prior to actually starting the work - it would have to so that the sort could be applied across all folders and what not. I don't know if it does that now or not (I think it does though).
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BigBlack
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2010-10-04 14:35
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No galvanash You don't understand.... I say "creation date" not "last modified date". Creation date doesn't change, and it's the time in which the file appear on the hard disk. So like that, nothing change... Library it's always the same on multiple pc users... No problem scanning library after a month or 2... All movies always ordered in the right way.
2 Days ago my database was deleted, by something I don't know... I needed to uninstall XBMC, delete user folders anda re install all, rescan my movies library and now the first new added movie it's one of 2 years ago.... So in this case this was the only solution, and there's no way to solve this order issue with actual XBMC fuction... And I notice that this is the 4th or 5th time that's appen on my 5 net pc.... And this is the first reason because I need that fuction... |
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takoi
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2010-10-04 16:39
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BigBlack Wrote:No galvanash You don't understand.... I say "creation date" not "last modified date". Creation date doesn't change, and it's the time in which the file appear on the hard disk. So like that, nothing change... Library it's always the same on multiple pc users... No problem scanning library after a month or 2... All movies always ordered in the right way.How many time do we have to say this? NOT PLATFORM INDEPENDENT! |
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galvanash
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2010-10-04 21:18
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BigBlack Wrote:No galvanash You don't understand.... I say "creation date" not "last modified date". Last modified is relatively standard across almost all platforms and file systems, and where it is implemented it generally means the same thing regardless of platform. Creation dates on the other hand are a big mess. Most Linux file systems don't even store them, OSX stores them twice, but only sets one or the other depending on what activity created the file... Windows does seem to support them fine and has for a long time, but it is the odd man out. I agree that on Windows creation date would probably be ideal... But it wouldn't be fun getting it to work across platforms... |
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BigBlack
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2010-10-05 14:41
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But windows user are surely the great part... So they can create that fuction for windows users.. the other will not have this fuction... I don't see this like a real trouble.
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MacGyver
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2010-10-08 10:38
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I'll be more clear.
Pre-scan all media to be added to the library, and sort this pre-scan queue by created or modified date, then add them to the library by oldest first. It would allow the library db to remain the same, but sorting by "Date Added" would appear to sort by creation/modified date. Only a change to the scan/import portion would be needed not the database. Unless they also added an extra setting to "Video Settings" to choose how the pre-scan sort is done ie. "Import by: Date Created" or "Import by: Date Modified", and have the sort label "Date Added" reference whatever sort method was selected in the import settings. 1x Revo 1600, 2x Foxconn NT-330i, 1x ATV1 - All running OpenELEC w/ Dharma, 1x XBOX running 3.0 :grin: |
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takoi
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2010-10-08 13:09
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Soring by date added in library mode is now added. In file mode its already there, and it sorts by modified date. Sorting in the import/export process will probably be added soon
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ezechiel1917
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2010-10-08 14:26
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ventech: Do I understand correctly that your patch currently sorts by ID which is same as it's done in Recently added view, therefore it doesn't solve much what's discussion here about? Guess it will help if ID could be included in nfo file, but how it will behave if there is already existing ID in database? Sorry if I got it wrong, but just wondering...
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DesktopMan
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2010-10-24 13:51
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ezechiel1917 Wrote:ventech: Do I understand correctly that your patch currently sorts by ID which is same as it's done in Recently added view, therefore it doesn't solve much what's discussion here about? Guess it will help if ID could be included in nfo file, but how it will behave if there is already existing ID in database? Sorry if I got it wrong, but just wondering... I tested this in Dharma Beta 3 and you are right, it sorts by date added. It's even called "date added". So you are right in assuming this is not the feature this thread asks for. If you rescan your library or do a new XBMC install they'll be added in some random order. I would very much appreciate a sort option called "date modified", also in library view. It's really the only sort option I'd use most of the time. It's also the primary reason I rarely use library view as only file view can sort by date modified. I wouldn't mind rescanning the library if that's needed to add "date modified" information to each library item. I do that from time to time to keep my meta data up to date anyway. |
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He was saying when a import was done sort by last modified date - what I thought he said was when a "Scan for New Items" was done on a source folder. If the files were sorted by last modified when scanning a source, they would end up being id'd in the proper order (more or less) - even for new users.
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