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Evanrich Offline
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Today started off as a good day. I got invited to a microsoft IT conference today for windows 7, and one of the take aways was a free copy of 7 ultimate....Highlight of my day.

Later, I get home, and I'm using Ember Media manager to delete a movie from my library, and think all is good. Then i notice my mapped drive in windows is showing 1.6TB free on my movie drive, instead of the 690GB that it was at before....go to investigate, and lo-and-behold....all my movies are gone...all 174 of them. I tried a few undelete utilities (Drive is a 4x 1TB RAID0 NAS array) and nothing worked. so I'm back to downloading everything again. Fortunately I have about 50 some odd movies on my mothers HTPC and elsewhere on my machines, but I'll have to retrieve about 120 more that I don't have. DEFINITELY not the highlight of my day.

Moral of the story, either backup, or BE CAREFUL....or you could loose 900GB of data in about 10 seconds, just like I did. That and not everything that happens to you is going to be good Sad

Board: Zotac ION-A-U Case: M350 Mini ITX Memory: 4GB Patriot PC6400 OS: XBMC on OpenELEC.tv build 6936 on a Corsair 32GB SSD Media Storage: W2K8 running on 14TB RAID 5 on an Asrock board w/ AMD Athlon X2 250 and PERC 6/I controller w/ 8 Samsung HD204UI Green drives Time to interface from power switch: 22.4 seconds.
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Not to rub salt in your wounds but...

Raid0 x 4 for data storage? Really?

It seems the only people who use Raid0 are the ones who don't have a horror story yet.

Sorry about your data, but maybe it'll lead to safer practices Smile

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theuni Wrote:Not to rub salt in your wounds but...

Raid0 x 4 for data storage? Really?

It seems the only people who use Raid0 are the ones who don't have a horror story yet.

Sorry about your data, but maybe it'll lead to safer practices Smile

TheUni

Originally I went with RAID 5, but I'm using Freenas, with a 3ware raid card...I spent about 3 days tweaking and playing with settings, stripe size, everything I could, and the performance I was getting across the network was dismal....maybe 20-30MB/sec across my GB connection...hardly even close to the performance of one drive, let alone 4.

After much thought, I finally tried Raid 0, and yes I know theres no security if one drive fails, but it's only movies and tv shows, nothing CRITICAL that i couldn't bear to loose, so I accept the fact i may loose everything. The performance with the RAID0 array is around 50-60MB/sec, definately better for me. the only real safety i have on this setup is that it's connected to a battery backup system in case the power goes out.

I have plans of moving to an 8 drive RAID 5 array in about 3 months, after which the 4 drives willl be repurposed into a WHS box....until then, I think they should last.

I can't figure out why ember wiped everything, I'm pretty sure it was just a fluke, but I am CERTAIN i only clicked on one movie and hit remove from library.

Board: Zotac ION-A-U Case: M350 Mini ITX Memory: 4GB Patriot PC6400 OS: XBMC on OpenELEC.tv build 6936 on a Corsair 32GB SSD Media Storage: W2K8 running on 14TB RAID 5 on an Asrock board w/ AMD Athlon X2 250 and PERC 6/I controller w/ 8 Samsung HD204UI Green drives Time to interface from power switch: 22.4 seconds.
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@Evanrich

So it was a failure of Ember Media manager, right?
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Evanrich Offline
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theuni Wrote:Not to rub salt in your wounds but...

Raid0 x 4 for data storage? Really?

It seems the only people who use Raid0 are the ones who don't have a horror story yet.

Sorry about your data, but maybe it'll lead to safer practices Smile

TheUni

Bob___ Wrote:@Evanrich

So it was a failure of Ember Media manager, right?

It would appear so... like i said, all i did was right click, hit remove..confirm remove on one movie, and then poof....all my tv shows are still there (different share) but every movie is gone.

Board: Zotac ION-A-U Case: M350 Mini ITX Memory: 4GB Patriot PC6400 OS: XBMC on OpenELEC.tv build 6936 on a Corsair 32GB SSD Media Storage: W2K8 running on 14TB RAID 5 on an Asrock board w/ AMD Athlon X2 250 and PERC 6/I controller w/ 8 Samsung HD204UI Green drives Time to interface from power switch: 22.4 seconds.
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"so I'm back to downloading everything again." - and of course you own these movies and your just collecting backups Wink
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Geeba Wrote:"so I'm back to downloading everything again." - and of course you own these movies and your just collecting backups Wink

actually most of them I do, but It would take me FOREVER to rip the bluray/hddvds i have, and i've got about 200 DVD's....but I'm opting for the slightly...higher quality version Smile

Board: Zotac ION-A-U Case: M350 Mini ITX Memory: 4GB Patriot PC6400 OS: XBMC on OpenELEC.tv build 6936 on a Corsair 32GB SSD Media Storage: W2K8 running on 14TB RAID 5 on an Asrock board w/ AMD Athlon X2 250 and PERC 6/I controller w/ 8 Samsung HD204UI Green drives Time to interface from power switch: 22.4 seconds.
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Evanrich Wrote:It would appear so... like i said, all i did was right click, hit remove..confirm remove on one movie, and then poof....all my tv shows are still there (different share) but every movie is gone.

I had the same experience with it, I remember though I thought I was removing one film that I didn't recognise, or thought it was a corrupt title in Embers movie list. Then I noticed much more spare capacity on that drive, and yes all my films were gone. I used 'Get Data back' and recovered them all, I was lucky to notice quickly and the drive was not written to again until after I recovered everything

I suppose here is not the right place to be talking about Ember though. Actually I blamed myself for deleting something I didn't really recognise, but I didn't think it would wipe all my films in one go!

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Evanrich Wrote:actually most of them I do

Mmhmm..I am a member of hdme.eu as well, originally read your story on there. Laugh

I am planning on backing up my 6 Mybook TB's all to internal drives, then safely tucking the internals away somewhere in the event that one of the MyBooks fails(which is only a matter of time I suppose).

I played around with the idea of a RAID 5 array for a while - but figured for a few hundred more I could have exact 1-1 copies of everything, which would make it ALOT easier to recover from a data loss.

Sad to hear about your "horror" story - with about 750 HD movies in my collection I have trouble sleeping some nights. Smile
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theuni Wrote:Raid0 x 4 for data storage? Really?

Indeed this is a scary proposition that will no-doubt end in tears one day Tongue
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