found this.. seems ATVFiles was the culprit..
but didn't cause problems until restarting after launcher update and finder restart.
http://forum.awkwardtv.org/viewtopic.php...&start=150
Apple TV OS Version 10.4.7 (Build 8N5983)
2009-11-19 07:22:51 -0500
2009-11-19 07:22:52.658 Finder[223] settings facade <ATVSettingsFacade: 0x190c610>
Nov 19 07:22:52 AppleTV /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AppleTV.framework/Resources/SettingsHelper: Request to change power settings: 0
Nov 19 07:22:52 AppleTV /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AppleTV.framework/Resources/SettingsHelper: WDOG: reset boot count to zero
Nov 19 07:23:03 AppleTV FrontRow[223]: Failed to allow loading of appliance /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/PlugIns/ATVFiles.frappliance
2009-11-19 07:23:03.257 Finder[223] a
2009-11-19 07:23:03.269 Finder[223] [DEBUG] +[XBMCAppliance initialize]
2009-11-19 07:23:03.305 Finder[223] [INFO] Launcher running in pure mode
2009-11-19 07:23:03.482 Finder[223] [DEBUG] +[XBMCAppliance className] called for whitelist check, so I'm lying, m'kay?
2009-11-19 07:23:03.565 Finder[223] *** -[BRMainMenuController defaultIndex]: selector not recognized [self = 0x86a3350]
2009-11-19 07:23:03.753 Finder[223] *** NSTimer discarding exception '*** -[BRMainMenuController defaultIndex]: selector not recognized [self = 0x86a3350]' that raised during firing of timer with target 193c550 and selector '_checkITunesStatus:'
Nov 19 07:23:03 AppleTV FrontRow[223]: *** NSEXCEPTION RAISED ***\n NSInvalidArgumentException: *** -[BRMainMenuController defaultIndex]: selector not recognized [self = 0x86a3350]\n 0x925d57ca: -[NSObject doesNotRecognizeSelector:] (in Foundation)\n 0x925284a7: -[NSObject(NSForwardInvocation) forward::] (in Foundation)\n 0x90ac6c01: _objc_msgForward (in libobjc.A.dylib)\n 0x96898ab2: -[BRMenuController wasPushed] (in BackRow)\n 0x08bb3240: -[BRMainMenuController(ATVFilesAutorun) wasPushed] (in ATVFiles)\n 0x9688cb56: -[BRControllerStack(TransactionEngine) _processReplaceAllTransaction:] (in BackRow)\n 0x9688bcb1: -[BRControllerStack(TransactionEngine) _processTransactions] (in BackRow)\n 0x000e29d8 (in Finder)\n 0x924f0a42: __NSFireTimer (in Foundation)\n 0x908bfa65: CFRunLoopRunSpecific (in CoreFoundation)\n 0x908bed51: CFRunLoopRunInMode (in CoreFoundation)\n 0x96950bd4: -[BRAppManager run] (in BackRow)\n 0x00005d6b (in Finder)\n 0x000e0842 (in Finder)\n 0x000e0769 (in Finder)