Option to Flatten Movies in Movie Sets Back Into Main List

joelmeans Wrote:sorttitle has nothing to do with sets. If a sorttitle exists, it is used for sorting when sort by name is used. If sorttitle doesn't exist, the title is used.
Joel

Gotcha, I guess from reading I thought sorttitle was only used when sorting inside of a set.

This also clears up a sorting problem with the patch I submitted allowing you to not display sets in nodes other than the set node.

Thanks.

robweber Wrote:"In that case...." what are you referring to?

I was referring to the original question :

Quote:Flatten Movies in Movie Sets Back Into Main List

robweber Wrote:Gotcha, I guess from reading I thought sorttitle was only used when sorting inside of a set.

This also clears up a sorting problem with the patch I submitted allowing you to not display sets in nodes other than the set node.

Thanks.

So if you don't use sorttitle at all, then there is no problem with your patch?

That's what I'm thinking. I have yet to test it without sorttitle, but my test set had '1','2','3' as the sorttitle. I think this is why they showed up on top when not in the set anymore, and only using name sort.
Either don't use sorttitle, or have the movies named something like 'lord of the rings 1', 'lord of the rings 2' so that they are all grouped together (if you still want that sort of thing). I think it is best just not to use it since you can always sort by release year within the set to get the correct order anyway.

That's how is sorttitle supposed to work. I don't use it, because it's not that much appealing to me. Having Quantum of Solace sorted after Casino royale somewhere under J (if you use James Bond... for example). What I like when I'm viewing Movies - Title node, sort by name is having all movies just simply sorted by an original name, no sets, no sorttitle.. then I can use smsjump keys of original title and don't have to think what sorttitle or set does Quantum of Solace belongs. I know there is search function, but I don't use it unless absolutely necessary View/sort functions, should be most intuitive for normal user as they can be by default. That's why are sorttitle and sets just an optional bonuses for those who will like their (dis)advantages.

literaldeluxe Wrote:It would be nice to have a GUI option to flatten movies in Sets back into the main list (ignore the "Set" tag and eliminate the Set submenus). Using the Die Hard example from http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Movie_Sets, *after* the movies have been put into a Set...

Normal view (with 3 movies in the "Die Hard Collection" set):
Desperate Measures
Die Hard Collection
Euro Trip

"Flat" view (still with 3 movies in a "Die Hard Collection" set):
Desperate Measures
Die Hard
Die Hard 2
Die Hard with a Vengeance
Euro Trip

At worst, it could at least be in advancedsettings.xml.

Yes, that would be nice. Sets in the Music Database would be cool, too

Sorttitle does not tie specially in any way into movie sets (they just happened to be introduced around the same time).
For most people 'sort by year' will work just fine within movie sets.

Sorttitle is useful in many other scenarios, as an example it can be used to sort titles that XBMC sorts incorrectly for international users, such as accented characters.

thanks sho for the history on that tag.

I have updated the trac to include comments regarding the sorttitle tag as they apply to this feature, but for all intents and purposes the patch I submitted does exactly what was outlined in this thread regarding an option to flatten movies into the main list.

I guess from here it is up to the devs to see if it is worth adding into XBMC or not.

no interest from devs to check rob's patch? would love to see this implemented.

literaldeluxe Wrote:It would be nice to have a GUI option to flatten movies in Sets back into the main list (ignore the "Set" tag and eliminate the Set submenus). Using the Die Hard example from http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Movie_Sets, *after* the movies have been put into a Set...

Normal view (with 3 movies in the "Die Hard Collection" set):
Desperate Measures
Die Hard Collection
Euro Trip

"Flat" view (still with 3 movies in a "Die Hard Collection" set):
Desperate Measures
Die Hard
Die Hard 2
Die Hard with a Vengeance
Euro Trip

At worst, it could at least be in advancedsettings.xml.

Good Idea. You can see your entire Library without accessing the sets.
A main advantage is that there are users which use the sets tag for sorting other types of genres like cartoon or something else.
With this kind of flat-patch it could be possible to scroll at once through the entire library.