[RELEASE] Alaska Revisited (not 100% Eden compatible)

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redtapemedia Offline
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cowbalt Wrote:I agree to all of the people here man...you're doing a great job here, this skin rocks.
Why not supporting it further with a small group of people, and get it developped much further than it already is.

To expect Hitcher to support it seems unfair as it was specifically released with the condition it was unsupported. There is nothing stopping others who have the inclination from working on it further however.

P.S Thanks for the release Hitcher, much appreciated.
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redtapemedia Wrote:To expect Hitcher to support it seems unfair as it was specifically released with the condition it was unsupported. There is nothing stopping others who have the inclination from working on it further however.

P.S Thanks for the release Hitcher, much appreciated.

Amen brother.

The release is awesome Hitcher, I'm impressed as always.

I'm also scared of the support request thread that this is most likely turn into.
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My impressions of this skin.

Really nice overall, the nicest change for me was the font(s), much much nicer with these new ones. The media Info screens are lovely. Quite quick too. Love the icons in the settings screen. Makes me almost wish we could use them on the homescreen. The red colour is perfect with the white/grey. Ive found lately that I like xbmc just to be the hub, neutral, limited amounts of art on display (seems to be what this skin is all about). -(an argument for allowing the icons to be homescreen icons perhaps)?

A few thoughts/criticisms:

1) I like to browse music by files, always have, probably always will, I'm the master of organising my music. Is it possible to make the MUSIC homepage link take you to music files mode? (by the way, love the party mode dropdown/submenu idea, much needed IMO!)- quick, easy access to a variety of tunes.

2) Browsing music/pictures in the grid. Its just my opinion, but for me, the items which are un-selected just look a bit too washed-out. I think most of the skin is elegant and subtle, I think this viewmode lets it down a touch. Would it be against the design ethos to have them all in focus? (full colour), and to indicate the highlighted item, just increase its size (as in posterview).

3) Maybe this is too drastic a change, but I cant see any way to remove Programs entirely from the homescreen. That would be good. I dont use xbmc for tv library either, (just movies). -wish I could remove homescreen items basically.

4) Video OSD is good enough, always appreciated the 'Time ending' detail of Aeon/Mediastream though, miss that. (so and so video will end at...)

5) Updating the homepage section images. Quite a hiccup caused by loading them all in at once (asrock 330). Would it be less clunky to load on 1 by 1? ie:
music ---> movies ---> videos
from left to right kinda thing. Maybe the menus items themselves could pulse a bit as if receiving new life (think xbox 360 menu items). I think this would be good.. as I think perhaps the homescreen is too static/bare?

6) Maybe it could do with a powerdown/favourites area at the bottomleft (like Xperience). (i guess it might conflict with the whole up and down scroll on the icons tho).

7) Could the up-down (sub-menu?) item/texts be made to visibly scroll instead of just change from one to the other? Might look nicer.

8) Browsing images in files layout. Maybe the display size of the image preview is in a nice proportion to the rest of the screen, but if think it should be bigger. I know this will vary from user to user, but if you take the recommended viewing distance (to which I think I adhere); I sit 6 feet away from the 40" screen and I find the images too small to be satisfying to glance at.

Transitions in this viewtype, I think imageviewing is not given enough attention by xbmc in general. I recently discovered Moovida and their approach to transitions was beautiful. If youve not seen it, do check it out, it makes viewing the images much more enjoyable (even for such simple transitions).

example (at about 3mins in):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrAslOCLYwA

Maybe the files viewtype (for pictures) could shuffle the images off to the left as you scroll down, replacing with the new image. (imagine it fading out as it moves away). I think it could look nice/subtle.

9) There's no 'play disc' menu item when you have a CD/DVD/BD in the drive.

10) Seems to be no onscreen keyboard or audio settings menu (latter, when accessed from the video OSD). -just noticed there are a few notification box graphics parts not present in this skin, I guess these are still to be done.

11) Problem when moving around menus? left left, right right (on settings or homescreen), highlight seems to double-back on itself? Not sure how to describe (anyone else see this?)

12) Rocky 6 failed to add to the database so I selected SetContent to add it using imdb instead of themoviedb... black screen followed by crash, log:
http://pastebin.com/ncGEbdXd

13) NowPlaying details, any plans to add duration (elapsed/total) infos?
(I currently get some text overlapping issues in my nowplaying area (artist overlaps song title), just to say.

Sorry for such a long post. Wanted to get down everything I could.

Pretty annoyed at the mo tho, seem to have f'd my dinovo mini touchpad. Sad

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(This post was last modified: 2010-03-22 02:45 by PantsOnFire.)
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Thanks for releasing this Hitcher it looks even better than it did on the video. I think its really fantastic your willing to share all your great work.

@PantsOnFire
I really think you need to read Hitchers first post.Tongue
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DV3B Wrote:@PantsOnFire
I really think you need to read Hitchers first post.Tongue

Well? If you read what I've written you'd see it's not just complaints.
It's just a list of observations, it's feedback.

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PantsOnFire my sincerest apologies I didn't mean for my comment to come across as an insult. I did read your post and you're spot on with all your observations. No offence was intended.
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hello, is there any way to add my Favourites in home screen 2 ? this is the only think with stop me from having this skin ...have 1117 movies and 64 Tv series and it will be so nice to just se my Favourites on the main screen(in home 2) so its lees to look when i need to find my movie ....please , please please please , alaska its seriesly the most Art-mode skin i ever used , thank You so much for so much time You spend , You are a great Artist !!! please please....favoutites in home style 2 .
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Darkcloud28 Wrote:hello, is there any way to add my Favourites in home screen 2 ? this is the only think with stop me from having this skin ...have 1117 movies and 64 Tv series and it will be so nice to just se my Favourites on the main screen(in home 2) so its lees to look when i need to find my movie ....please , please please please , alaska its seriesly the most Art-mode skin i ever used , thank You so much for so much time You spend , You are a great Artist !!! please please....favoutites in home style 2 .

even if it just in videos like a plug in or something that will be OK, can I do his somehow ?
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redtapemedia Wrote:To expect Hitcher to support it seems unfair as it was specifically released with the condition it was unsupported. There is nothing stopping others who have the inclination from working on it further however.

P.S Thanks for the release Hitcher, much appreciated.

+1

Great skin as it is! Keep it unsupported Hitcher.

// X
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PantsOnFire Wrote:My impressions of this skin.

Really nice overall, the nicest change for me was the font(s), much much nicer with these new ones. The media Info screens are lovely. Quite quick too. Love the icons in the settings screen. Makes me almost wish we could use them on the homescreen. The red colour is perfect with the white/grey. Ive found lately that I like xbmc just to be the hub, neutral, limited amounts of art on display (seems to be what this skin is all about). -(an argument for allowing the icons to be homescreen icons perhaps)?

A few thoughts/criticisms:

1) I like to browse music by files, always have, probably always will, I'm the master of organising my music. Is it possible to make the MUSIC homepage link take you to music files mode? (by the way, love the party mode dropdown/submenu idea, much needed IMO!)- quick, easy access to a variety of tunes.

Simply change line 79 of the Includes_HomeDefault.xml to <onclick>ActivateWindow(MusicFiles)</onclick>

2) Browsing music/pictures in the grid. Its just my opinion, but for me, the items which are un-selected just look a bit too washed-out. I think most of the skin is elegant and subtle, I think this viewmode lets it down a touch. Would it be against the design ethos to have them all in focus? (full colour), and to indicate the highlighted item, just increase its size (as in posterview).

I like it but you can do whatever suits you.

3) Maybe this is too drastic a change, but I cant see any way to remove Programs entirely from the homescreen. That would be good. I dont use xbmc for tv library either, (just movies). -wish I could remove homescreen items basically.

It takes a lot of code to do that for the main style home in Alaska and one of the things I wanted to do with Revisited was keep the code down so I could run it on my Xbox as well.

4) Video OSD is good enough, always appreciated the 'Time ending' detail of Aeon/Mediastream though, miss that. (so and so video will end at...)

It's still there on the OSD Info screen.

5) Updating the homepage section images. Quite a hiccup caused by loading them all in at once (asrock 330). Would it be less clunky to load on 1 by 1? ie:
music ---> movies ---> videos
from left to right kinda thing. Maybe the menus items themselves could pulse a bit as if receiving new life (think xbox 360 menu items). I think this would be good.. as I think perhaps the homescreen is too static/bare?


Take a look at Alaska's home code if you want to change the time per image as that's the only way to get it staggered but it means the gaps increase and they eventually catch up and overtake each other. Or you could try resizing the images used as they don't need to be fullscreen size.

6) Maybe it could do with a powerdown/favourites area at the bottomleft (like Xperience). (i guess it might conflict with the whole up and down scroll on the icons tho).

They'll get added to the submenus some when.

7) Could the up-down (sub-menu?) item/texts be made to visibly scroll instead of just change from one to the other? Might look nicer.

Tried this before with Alaska but could only get the submenu items scrolling and not the main labels as they were separate.

8) Browsing images in files layout. Maybe the display size of the image preview is in a nice proportion to the rest of the screen, but if think it should be bigger. I know this will vary from user to user, but if you take the recommended viewing distance (to which I think I adhere); I sit 6 feet away from the 40" screen and I find the images too small to be satisfying to glance at.

Transitions in this viewtype, I think imageviewing is not given enough attention by xbmc in general. I recently discovered Moovida and their approach to transitions was beautiful. If youve not seen it, do check it out, it makes viewing the images much more enjoyable (even for such simple transitions).

example (at about 3mins in):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrAslOCLYwA

Maybe the files viewtype (for pictures) could shuffle the images off to the left as you scroll down, replacing with the new image. (imagine it fading out as it moves away). I think it could look nice/subtle.


You can see the image in the background as well.

9) There's no 'play disc' menu item when you have a CD/DVD/BD in the drive.

Scroll down the Video menus.

10) Seems to be no onscreen keyboard or audio settings menu (latter, when accessed from the video OSD). -just noticed there are a few notification box graphics parts not present in this skin, I guess these are still to be done.

Haven't needed to use them myself yet so they're not done.

11) Problem when moving around menus? left left, right right (on settings or homescreen), highlight seems to double-back on itself? Not sure how to describe (anyone else see this?)

It's an animation thing.

12) Rocky 6 failed to add to the database so I selected SetContent to add it using imdb instead of themoviedb... black screen followed by crash, log:
http://pastebin.com/ncGEbdXd


Again - not needed, not done.

13) NowPlaying details, any plans to add duration (elapsed/total) infos?
(I currently get some text overlapping issues in my nowplaying area (artist overlaps song title), just to say.


No, and you can't be using a newer SVN XBMC build.
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Hitcher this skin is awesome/


One quick quesiton/advsie.

I am running my xbmc on an ASrock ION 330 with 4GB ram. I am having the problem of the fanart slowing down the scrolling. Since i dont want to lose the fanart, i read above that you asked him to resize the images. How do i go about in doing that? Is there an easy way i can do this for all my movies/tv shows? to have a smooth interface like yours?

PS: how do i get the shutdown menu on my asrock? what key?

Thanks a lot in advance, and keep up the good work. This is the greatest skin i have ever seen.
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Hi. I have found the problem with adding or modifying sources of the library. The XBMC crash. Workaround is to change skin to other one, make a changes and than switch back to alaska.
(This post was last modified: 2010-03-22 21:50 by BrAtKo.)
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rossoneri711 Wrote:Hitcher this skin is awesome/


One quick quesiton/advsie.

I am running my xbmc on an ASrock ION 330 with 4GB ram. I am having the problem of the fanart slowing down the scrolling. Since i dont want to lose the fanart, i read above that you asked him to resize the images. How do i go about in doing that? Is there an easy way i can do this for all my movies/tv shows? to have a smooth interface like yours?

PS: how do i get the shutdown menu on my asrock? what key?

Thanks a lot in advance, and keep up the good work. This is the greatest skin i have ever seen.

Hi, I have ASRock 330HT too Smile Anyway multiple image resizer is the utility category you have to look for. For example pixResizer or Multiple Image Resizer .NET. The resolution of the Alaskas's backdrops is 640x360 pixels in compare with 1080 backdrops 1920x1080.

If you press the keyboard key S you get into the menu with SHUTDOWN. Just map the S key on your remote button.
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BrAtKo Wrote:Hi, I have ASRock 330HT too Smile Anyway multiple image resizer is the utility category you have to look for. For example pixResizer or Multiple Image Resizer .NET. The resolution of the Alaskas's backdrops is 640x360 pixels in compare with 1080 backdrops 1920x1080.

If you press the keyboard key S you get into the menu with SHUTDOWN. Just map the S key on your remote button.

Thanks for the help, i will give it a go. What size do you resize your images? Are these the .tbn files located in the xbmc folder? 1280x720? Do you have the same problem? Also can you point me a source on how to map my remote?

Thanks in advance
(This post was last modified: 2010-03-23 00:12 by rossoneri711.)
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