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davilla · 2010-10-08, 16:39

idioteque Wrote:ok thanks for the quick response.

Any thoughts on the skipping part ? or is more info required like logs and or specs ?

I'd need a sample to investigate further.

ix400 · 2010-10-09, 08:37

ix400 Wrote:I have submitted a bug report to apple. Actually I used both links:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html
https://bugreport.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebO.../wa/signIn

I have sent the report using both links.

Please, can do everyone who is encountering the same problem on the mini 2010 do the same?

We need to inform Apple about the problem, and the more people chime in the more likely it gets that the problem will be fixed some day.

Cheers,

Chris

... just to keep you up to date:

I got response from Apple. A technician asked me to provide further details about my configuration.

At least Apple seems to be aware of the problem now.

Chris

babil · 2010-10-09, 09:58

idioteque Wrote:Ok,

Downloaded 10.6.3. Did a clean install. SABNZB and XBMC only, no OSX or any other updates from Apple installed. A clean 10.6.3 from internet.

DVA off = no frames dropped what so ever, except 1 during start file. The only time frames are dropped is when CPU gets above 98%.

DVA on = frames dropped. 1080p or 720p. 1080 is worse. dropped frames and CPU seems no relation. What does seem a relation is fast image difference. Say light to dark or scene changes in a movie with high contrast., indoor outdoor.

I think that the log says this when frames are dropped:

01:30:28 T:2967498752 M:394383360 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00
01:30:36 T:2967498752 M:394244096 WARNING: Decode - avcodec_decode_video didn't consume the full packet. size: 7623, consumed: 0
01:30:36 T:2967498752 M:394244096 WARNING: Decode - avcodec_decode_video didn't consume the full packet. size: 8066, consumed: 0

File been played:
Note! the file is 720P and [email protected]

Created on: 7 okt 2010 13:10:25 GMT+02:00
Report for file: cbgb-howtotrainyourdragon720.mkv
General / Container Stream #1
Total Video Streams for this File.................1
Total Audio Streams for this File.................1
Total Subtitle Streams for this File..............1
Video Codecs Used.................................AVC
Audio Codecs Used.................................AC3
SubTitle Codecs Used..............................UTF-8
File Format.......................................Matroska
Play Time.........................................1h 37mn
Total File Size...................................4.37 GiB
Total Stream BitRate..............................6 397 Kbps
Encoded with......................................mkvmerge v4.3.0 ('Escape from the Island') built on Sep 5 2010 10:30:51
Encoding Library..................................libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0
Video Stream #1
Codec (Human Name)................................AVC
Codec (FourCC)....................................V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Codec [email protected]
Frame Width.......................................1 280 pixels
Frame Height......................................544 pixels
Frame Rate........................................23.976 fps
Total Frames......................................140764
Display Aspect Ratio..............................2.35:1
Scan Type.........................................Progressive
Color Space.......................................YUV
Codec Settings (Summary)..........................CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
QF (like Gordian Knot)............................0.345
Codec Settings (CABAC)............................Yes
Codec Settings (Reference Frames).................5
Video Stream Length...............................1h 37mn 51s 38ms
Video Stream BitRate..............................5 755 Kbps
Bit Depth.........................................8 bits
Video Stream Size.................................3.85 GiB (88%)
Video Encoder.....................................x264 - core 106 r1732 b20059a
Video Encoder (Settings)..........................cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.20 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=5755 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Audio Stream #1
Codec.............................................AC-3
Codec (FourCC)....................................A_AC3
Audio Stream Length...............................1h 37mn 51s 40ms
Audio Stream BitRate..............................640 Kbps
Audio Stream BitRate Mode.........................CBR
Number of Audio Channels..........................6
Audio Channel's Positions.........................Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling Rate.....................................48.0 KHz
Audio Stream Size.................................448 MiB (10%)
Subtitle Stream #1
Format............................................UTF-8
Codec ID..........................................S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec Info........................................UTF-8 Plain Text
Menu / Chapters Stream #1

Interesting .. it seems idioteque and I were playing the exact same video and getting the "CPullupCorrection" messages.

My setup is Apple TV with CrystalHD (3.6.0).

@davilla: I have PM'ed you the link for the sample.

idioteque · 2010-10-11, 16:49

The weird thing is. I also own an Apple Mac Book Pro late 2009 and with VDA on using the same build, ( Darmha Beta 2) there is no frame dropping. 1080p earth is no problem, same goes for any other mkv. And it runs 10.6.4

So, what is the difference between a mbp 2009 and an mini 2009?

Mini: (10.6.3)
Nvidia GeForce 9400M using 256 MiB of DDR3 SDRAM

MPB: (10.6.4)
Nvidia GeForce 9400M with 256 MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory and Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT with 256 MB or 512 MB of GDDR3 SDRAM (default I use the 9600mGT for grahpics)

davilla · 2010-10-11, 17:34

idioteque Wrote:The weird thing is. I also own an Apple Mac Book Pro late 2009 and with VDA on using the same build, ( Darmha Beta 2) there is no frame dropping. 1080p earth is no problem, same goes for any other mkv. And it runs 10.6.4

So, what is the difference between a mbp 2009 and an mini 2009?

Mini: (10.6.3)
Nvidia GeForce 9400M using 256 MiB of DDR3 SDRAM

MPB: (10.6.4)
Nvidia GeForce 9400M with 256 MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory and Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT with 256 MB or 512 MB of GDDR3 SDRAM (default I use the 9600mGT for grahpics)

How much physical RAM on each. OSX will share memory with the GPU and the amount is determined by how much total RAM is present.

idioteque · (This post was last modified: 2010-10-11, 18:29 by idioteque.)

The mbp has 4gb 1067 Mhz DDR3
The mini has 2gb 1067 Mhz DDR3

Any more info required to solve this?

davilla · 2010-10-11, 18:36

idioteque Wrote:The mbp has 4gb 1067 Mhz DDR3
The mini has 2gb 1067 Mhz DDR3

Any more info required to solve this?

Should be plenty, you do make the comment "default I use the 9600mGT for grahpics", does that mean you run the 9600 under XBMC on the mbp and 9400 on the mini ?

idioteque · 2010-10-11, 18:43

MBP
In the Sys pref under Energy I select preformance. Under XBMC-> system info the 9600m GT is used with OpenGL 2.1 NVIDIA-1.6.18

Mini:
Here in XBMC 9400 is used with OpenGL 2.1 NVIDIA 1.6.10

Perhaps a different driver makes up for the difference ?

installing 10.6.4 on the mini did not solve the problem of dropped freames

davilla · 2010-10-11, 19:08

idioteque Wrote:MBP
In the Sys pref under Energy I select preformance. Under XBMC-> system info the 9600m GT is used with OpenGL 2.1 NVIDIA-1.6.18

Mini:
Here in XBMC 9400 is used with OpenGL 2.1 NVIDIA 1.6.10

Perhaps a different driver makes up for the difference ?

installing 10.6.4 on the mini did not solve the problem of dropped freames

Use the 9400 under the mpb, then you are comparing apples to apples. right now you are comparing xbmc under the 9400 to xbmc under the 9600.

idioteque · (This post was last modified: 2010-10-12, 14:24 by idioteque.)

running the 9400 under the mpb makes everything run smooth.

I tried one last thing to see what the difference could be and I had to reboot the mini.

After reboot and playing the mkv, all of a sutton it plays smooth.

A few things i noticed:

1: The mini had a uptime of about 2 weeks and is put to sleep 3-4 times a day.
2: Sometimes the mini is turned on or woken from sleep before the TV is turned on
3: The mini is connected through display port DVI-HDMI to HDMI port on the TV
4: the TV is a Panasonic 42PG20ES Full HD plasma TV from 2010

THE slight slowing and speeding of the FPS still seems to be there as is a few dropped frames here and there ( say 1 every 10-15 min)

Perhaps the long uptime or a combination with the waking up from sleep without a valid HDMI/Displayport signal could be a cause of the dropping frames ?

babil · (This post was last modified: 2010-10-15, 15:32 by babil.)

I have just updated XBMC to 34731. My Crystal HD version is 3.6.0.
I am getting "CPullUpCorrection" messages in the log when the playback will stutter or be out of sync. for a few seconds.

I can reproduce it by:

1. at the beginning of playback.
2. when seeking forward/backward.

xbmc.log:: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/275799/
dmesg.out:: http://pastebin.com/AF2Y4Dm2
kextstat.out::http://pastebin.com/pYrDj9WK
mediainfo.out:: http://pastebin.com/dn60MdGx

Code:
00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00

14:59 T:53979648 M:  3129344   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost

15:01 T:53979648 M:  3260416   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4

00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410

00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00

15:25 T:53979648 M:  3420160   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost

15:28 T:53979648 M:  3342336   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4

00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410

00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00

15:52 T:53979648 M:  3330048   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost

15:54 T:53979648 M:  3645440   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4

00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410

00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00

16:18 T:53979648 M:  3362816   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost

16:20 T:53979648 M:  3579904   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4

00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410

00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00

16:43 T:53979648 M:  3276800   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost

16:46 T:53979648 M:  3514368   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4

00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410

00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00

17:10 T:53979648 M:  3960832   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost

17:12 T:53979648 M:  3162112   DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4

00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410

00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00

(END)

Kyle Reese · 2011-01-30, 21:43

babil Wrote:I have just updated XBMC to 34731. My Crystal HD version is 3.6.0.
I am getting "CPullUpCorrection" messages in the log when the playback will stutter or be out of sync. for a few seconds.

I can reproduce it by:

1. at the beginning of playback.
2. when seeking forward/backward.

xbmc.log:: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/275799/
dmesg.out:: http://pastebin.com/AF2Y4Dm2
kextstat.out::http://pastebin.com/pYrDj9WK
mediainfo.out:: http://pastebin.com/dn60MdGx

Code:
00.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 23:14:59 T:53979648 M: 3129344 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost 23:15:01 T:53979648 M: 3260416 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4 2000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410 00.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 23:15:25 T:53979648 M: 3420160 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost 23:15:28 T:53979648 M: 3342336 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4 2000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410 00.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 23:15:52 T:53979648 M: 3330048 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost 23:15:54 T:53979648 M: 3645440 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4 2000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410 00.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 23:16:18 T:53979648 M: 3362816 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost 23:16:20 T:53979648 M: 3579904 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4 2000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410 00.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 23:16:43 T:53979648 M: 3276800 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost 23:16:46 T:53979648 M: 3514368 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4 2000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410 00.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 23:17:10 T:53979648 M: 3960832 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: pattern lost 23:17:12 T:53979648 M: 3162112 DEBUG: CPullupCorrection: detected pattern of length 24: 41000.00 42000.00 4 2000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 410 00.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 42000.00 41000.00 42000.00 42000.00 (END)

Did you ever find a fix for this? My Crystal HD just started doing the same thing