HDMI CEC (Consumer Electronics Control), HDMI communication channel protocol support?

That some systems may not have the pin wired thats fine, but bundling every ION1/ION2 and saying none work is incorrect.

You also just confirmed various facts I had already posted...

anyways, if this is all about the new remote control;, its great but still doesn't address the original question from this post.

What is being said is that basically its this or nothing when it comes to native CEC support on ANY board with a supporting TV set to match.

X3lectric Wrote:That some systems may not have the pin wired thats fine, but bundling every ION1/ION2 and saying none work is incorrect.

Nobody said that none work.

Quote:What is being said is that basically its this or nothing when it comes to native CEC support on ANY board with a supporting TV set to match.

That was answered pretty clearly in the previous post. Currently the drivers do not expose CEC.

Mindzai Wrote:Nobody said that none work.

I've said it, and I still believe there is not single ION board with HDMI-CEC support. Also as I've said implementation is optional, and when is something optional there is not much reason to implement it, if you won't use it. There can be hardly open or closed drivers for something, which is not implemented on hw level. I'd be happy to accept the otherwise in case someone links me a specification, datasheet or any real proof that some ION board has it implemented.

If you believe there are none why dont you post this proof?

X3lectric Wrote:If you believe there are none why dont you post this proof?

How exactly do you prove something which isn't there? Just show us a board that does this and thus prove that it already exists.

The absence of evidence might not be the evidence of absence, but it won't work the other way around in any case. Thus you have to provide evidence of presence in order to prove presence, it is not our job to prove that there isn't something like that.

doesnt that kinda work both ways? claims are made in name of believes (generally a believe is not a certainty), Honestly I dont care what is said, but claiming it doesnt in first place requires some proof to back it up, otherwise its just FUD. You cant tar everything with same brush and besides I doubt pulse eight has tested all machines.

I dont have a means to test it other than physically with multimeter on my machine, whenever and if I care enough to take it appart and go hunting post the results. As for driver in Linux I doubt they even exist for most machines.

On the driver issue it is obviously easier to write one up for a specific 3rd party device then to write one up for all machines that probably the devs dont even have access to.

and on this final note what this topic is about is being glazed over with this new remote and solution I know form experience that grabbing datasheets from manufacturers and specific information takes a long time if EVER. Im still waiting on datasheets for a super i/o chip after two years.

Because I believe in something doesn't necessarily mean there is a proof behind it. It's just I haven't read anything which would officially mention or confirmed implementation of HDMI-CEC in ION or any other discrete graphics card.

thats what I said a believe is not a certainty.

And btw Nvidia when asked about it on any video cards there is no replies anywhere. only thing I got form one of the many posts was this http://rainshadowtech.com/default_files/HDMICECUSB.htm

which I suppose its essentially what pulse eight based on a smaller scale and simplified. or maybe something like this http://www.chrontel.com/products/7322.htm

X3lectric Wrote:doesnt that kinda work both ways? claims are made in name of believes (generally a believe is not a certainty), Honestly I dont care what is said, but claiming it doesnt in first place requires some proof to back it up, otherwise its just FUD. You cant tar everything with same brush and besides I doubt pulse eight has tested all machines.

I may be not enough into this thread, but isn't this about the implementation of HDMI CEC? If you want something developed for it, you need something to run in it on. If someone says that he believes that there isn't something like that and you still want it to be dev., then you need something which actually features it.

Allright, I can bring some light into this:
There is no ION-Board which features HDMI CEC. Googling for a long time, doesn't bring up any usable hints for such board. And you just know that someone how would manufactur this would also advertise it. There are chips for it, but it doesn't seem like it is implemented on any ION-Board. And that is not a believe
Although - there is a mentioning that some ATI Cards feature it, but AMD doesn't talk about it anywhere - so it doesn't seem like there is anything available at this point.