Good value AV Receiver?
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Hi, I'm a newbie when it comes to AV Receivers and I just wondered if anyone could help me out a bit.

I'm interested in setting up a 5.1 sound system and I'm looking for a decent but not too expensive AV receiver to plug DVD, XS35GT, Freeview dish etc into.

Which features are important to look for? Any recommended current models?

Also any tips like good 'AV Receiver for dummies' URLs would be great.

Thanks a lot.
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http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=81626
http://www.avforums.com/forums/onkyo-products/
http://www.google.com
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I like to get a lot of value with my purchases personally, and that is why recently I bought this receiver:

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-s...ver/1.html

Its last year's model, but that is also why its half price. 6 HDMI in means you can hook tons of stuff to it. Its a 7.1 that can be converted to a 5.1 with a bi-amped fronts (aka this can power floorstanding speakers). It has plenty of power, 2 subwoofer outs, has no handshake issues with XBMC, and sounds great.

Anything less would be a poor value. Only thing this receiver does not do is 3D, if you want 3D than get this one (one bump up):

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-s...608/1.html

Every receiver bought from that site gets a full check from a technician and comes with a full 1 year warranty. Its safer than buying from Newegg actually (as they are not a
official dealer so if you have problems the warranty might be shot).

Hope I helped...

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poofyhairguy Wrote:I like to get a lot of value with my purchases personally, and that is why recently I bought this receiver:

I really know sh*t about AV receivers, hence a question: how does set like HT-S5305 (http://www.eu.onkyo.com/products/HT-S5305_.html ) sounds with plain old stereo music ( 256-320mp3/aac )?

I considered upgrading my audio system (read: TV speakers), but although I'll like 5.1 for movies am not in a mood of investing in system just for that and I'm little picky about music quality. Maybe I should go with solid stereo system?
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Thanks for the advice and links.

So, to further refine my needs:
1. I don't care at all for having 3D
2. At least 3 or 4 HDMI inputs would be good
3. 5.1 sound is all I need, so forget anything greater than this
4. Last year's model is fine, as long as it meets the above requirements
5. As cheap as possible, but not nasty

Does that narrow my model possibilities a bit?

Any suggestions? I love the look of the Denons so are there any models that might satisfy the above? However a Denon is not a must.

Also, I suppose looking for second hand equipment might be a reasonable idea?
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I am seriously considering upgrading to the Onkyo RC-260 for $299 shipped here. It is exactly the same as the TX-SR608 minus an old school VGA port, Sirius input and THX Select2 certification.
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I watch a great show called hdnation, and they share tons of useful info. They did an episode which included "Best Bargain Receiver: Denon AVR-591". I'll post the link so you can have a watch.

http://revision3.com/hdnation/drobofs

M.
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froggit Wrote:Thanks for the advice and links.

So, to further refine my needs:
1. I don't care at all for having 3D
2. At least 3 or 4 HDMI inputs would be good
3. 5.1 sound is all I need, so forget anything greater than this
4. Last year's model is fine, as long as it meets the above requirements
5. As cheap as possible, but not nasty

Does that narrow my model possibilities a bit?

Any suggestions? I love the look of the Denons so are there any models that might satisfy the above? However a Denon is not a must.

Also, I suppose looking for second hand equipment might be a reasonable idea?

I have last year's denon avr-590 which has 3 HDMI in and 5.1, plus pre-outs for the other 2 channels should you ever want to move to 7.1.

It seemed to have the same core feature set, and similar quality amplifier, as all the more expensive stuff. Most other brands did not have a comparable model.

I had a 10% or 15% coupon for best buy and it was under $300.

I am basically satisfied, although i'd like more HDMI inputs (currently full with tivo, hd-dvd, and HTPC, what do i do when i get an xbox or ps3 or whatever?). My advice is that if you can find a receiver with more HDMI in than you think you need, for another $50 or $100 it's probably worth it. Of course that really depends on your own finances and your tolerance for dorking around with external switchers, etc.

Look at the specs of the amplifiers, THD in particular. I remember one brand (I want to say onkyo but i could easily be wrong) had great amps in their $600+ receivers but not in the cheaper ones.

When purchasing denon note that they take identical receivers and put two labels on them. One goes to the generic audio market, one goes to home theater. In this case the equivalent model was an avr-1310 i think. Best Buy had the 590 out on the shelf and the 1310 in the magnolia home theater section for $30 more.

I see that they have an avr-591 which loses a toslink and gains an HDMI. They also have a $250 avr-391, i dunno what they cut to reach that price.
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Marvel Wrote:I watch a great show called hdnation, and they share tons of useful info. They did an episode which included "Best Bargain Receiver: Denon AVR-591". I'll post the link so you can have a watch.

http://revision3.com/hdnation/drobofs

M.

I had a search on the Denon website for the AVR-591, but it's not listed on the UK Denon site, but it is listed on the USA Denon site. So is this a USA only model? Or is there a UK equivalent model with a different model number?
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Based on a quick look at the UK denon site, the AVR-1311 appears to be the closest match. Maybe the exact same item.

hope that helps
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Thanks for the info danpritts.

I took a look on the Denon UK site and did a comparison of the AVR-1311, AVR-1611 & AVR-1911.

See here: http://denon.co.uk/uk/Product/Pages/Prod...d9cd446121

From that comparison it looks like the AVR-1311 is a 5.1 AVR but lacks Audio Return Channel, Dolby Pro Logic IIz, Audyssey, Auto setup, Auto Room EQ etc, so the 5.1-based AVR-1611 looks a better model for me, as it has these extra features.

The AVR-1911 is similar to the AVR-1611 but has numerous extra enhancements, most of which I probably don't need, although perhaps the video upscaling of the AVR-1911 could be useful.
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I've had a search round and can't find the Denon AVR-591 being sold in the uk. What about emailing denon customer services froggit ?

M.
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Marvel Wrote:I've had a search round and can't find the Denon AVR-591 being sold in the uk. What about emailing denon customer services froggit ?

M.

Yes, you're right - I should ask them what the situation is.
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Take a look at the Yamaha RX-V367, it has 4 HDMI & 2 Component inputs but won't upconvert the component to HDMI so you will have to run 2 sets of cables if you need to use these inputs. It doesn't decode the newer HD codecs, but it does accept PCM so if you're Bluray player can do the decoding you'll be fine.

Really good bang for your buck receiver if you need the 4 HDMI ins over the Denon's 3. This review steps through the basic features: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/recei...rx-v367-fl
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Yamaha or Denon for my money.

Make sure you get one with dynamic volume & dynamic multe Eq - Yamaha have a different name for it, but they're essential features.

Basically what they do is room correction (based on measurements made with the included mic.), and they used this data to create excellent dynamics and surround effect at more realistic volumes that most of us use in the home. Also, the dynamic volume looks ahead at the signal and stops things like commericals etc from suddenly jumping up in volume.

It sounds like a whole lot of interfering with the signal, but it's very very effective (and I say that as a bit of purist two channel snob when it comes to music) - it just makes the movie experience way more comfortable. Movies are mastered for 'reference volumes' which are stupidly stupidly loud, and without these features the mix never sound right at lower volumes.

Done right, you never really notice it except for it making everything sound natural, nice, and easy on the ears - no volume monitoring required and easy to hear vocals, it's great!

The Denon setup is a bit painful (interface is clunky) but to my taste the results are slightly better than with the Yamahas. And ocne you have ir right you can basically leave it that way forever unless your setup changes significantly (really, your room/furniture, not so much your equipment as they all send basically the same digital signal).
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