SageTV Integration - Movies and TV Shows archiving compatible with XBMC

In v1.1 I noticed that it tried to process a file ShowAnalyzer was still working on.

I had 3 recordings to transfer, all are the same program. They all had properties files. I did a test transfer and all went well, it recognized all 3. Transfer was set up to copy and leave the original. I then cleared the history so I could run another test.

I then downloaded ShowAnalyzer and set it up. Configured Config.xml to wait for the edl and then remove the original recordings. When the next scheduled cycle occurred I got a warning email:
Season and Episode could not be found in properties file or on thetvdb.com. Will skip this file: g:\SageTV\TheTonightShowWithJayLeno-109007-0.mpg

The weird thing is that it did transfer with the edl. However if I go back to the recording folder the file is still there, the properties file is gone, and the edl file is 0kb. Showanalyzer shows the file as processed in its history but it also shows the file as active. It also has been processing for quite a bit longer than it did the 1st time.

This could be a fluke as I've been bouncing back and forth between this box and work or maybe it caught showanalyzer at a sensitive moment?

@TugboatBill
Are you manually setting up Showanalzer to generate .edl files? I have only tested with the Comskip SageTV plugin generating .edl files, so I can't guarantee anything with a manual setup.
The program tests if the .edl file has been modified in the last 60 seconds, if it hasn't it continues. Using the SageTV plugin, the .edl files are modified every second while the .edl is still being worked on, so this method works well.

As far as the .properties file going missing, that's not something this program would cause. It sounds like Sage might have gotten messed up and thought the recording was gone, thus deleting the associated .properties file?

bradvido88 Wrote:@TugboatBill
Are you manually setting up Showanalzer to generate .edl files? I have only tested with the Comskip SageTV plugin generating .edl files, so I can't guarantee anything with a manual setup.
The program tests if the .edl file has been modified in the last 60 seconds, if it hasn't it continues. Using the SageTV plugin, the .edl files are modified every second while the .edl is still being worked on, so this method works well.

As far as the .properties file going missing, that's not something this program would cause. It sounds like Sage might have gotten messed up and thought the recording was gone, thus deleting the associated .properties file?

I've set up showanalyzer to monitor the folder and generate the edl automatically. It appears that Showanalyzer or the OS (Win7 Pro x64) caches the changes to the edl file until it is done. I didn't notice if the time on the edl file was changing, but I did notice it stayed a 0 size. Maybe a entry in the Config.xml for how long to wait on the edl would be a viable solution? My server takes about 8 minutes per hour of recording to process so if I were able to set it at 15 minutes I'd be good (I don't record movies).

As for the properties file, yes, Sage could have removed it.

I'm watching a recording as it happens right now. ShowAnalyzer is processing it at the same time. The file size of the mpg is changing, but the time stamp (date modified) isn't. The edl time stamp (date modified) is changing and size is 0.

Note that I'm looking at the "Date Modified" column (not on by default). If I look at the std WE date column neither of the times are changing.

TugboatBill Wrote:I'm watching a recording as it happens right now. ShowAnalyzer is processing it at the same time. The file size of the mpg is changing, but the time stamp (date modified) isn't. The edl time stamp (date modified) is changing and size is 0.

Note that I'm looking at the "Date Modified" column (not on by default). If I look at the std WE date column neither of the times are changing.

Well there seems to be some strange things going on with the date modified, especially since the size remains zero.
To be compatible with ShowAnalyzer, here's the options I see:

1. If you use v1.2 and set "redirect=true", then this is not an issue. A symbolic link can be created to the .edl file before the .edl is finished, and it will gracefully reflect all the changes of the final .edl.
2. I could add a minimum wait time, as you suggested to Config.xml. So that the program will wait at least X minutes after the video has finished recording before it processes the file.
   

I will probably add #2 in the next release, but in the meantime, you may want to consider #1.

--Hope this helps.

I think I'll wait. My XBMC videos are on a unraid box and the recording folder is on my HT server. The symbolic links probably won't work in a mixed OS environment like that and even if they did it is too prone to problems.

I'll upgrade to 1.2 anyway.

Now I have to figure out how I'm going to manage recordings that don't ID. IE This Old House and BBC World News.

Ok, I did find a problem. My Sage did use UNC paths, but was referring to the directory as \\localhost instead of \\Wheelhouse - the problem is that I cannot access \\localhost from another computer.

I'm working on changing the directory reference and reindexing the files - should know more soon.

Got this installed and running manually. Automation is on the list for next weekend. I have one question though. Is there anyway to have a filter that is all tv shows? Right now if I want this to move all my SageTV recordings I have to remember to add another filter to the config.xml file every time I add another season pass or even individual recording.

pkscuot Wrote:Is there anyway to have a filter that is all tv shows?

Currently, there is no wildcard filter for TV Shows. I didn't integrate one because (currently) TV Shows that can't be looked up on TheTVDB can't be added to XBMC. So, it wont help to add programming like News or less common shows because their meta-data can't be looked up.
I am working on a way to manually add TV shows that don't have Season Number/Episode Number, but haven't gotten that far yet (your input is welcome).

So for now, you have to set up a showfilter for each TV Show.

Next release, this will be changed.

bradvido88 Wrote:So for now, you have to set up a showfilter for each TV Show.

No worries. New problem now though. Yesterday I successfully moved an episode of CSI Miami from last week. This morning I tried to manually run it again to get Hawaii Five-0 moved over, but it didn't work. I ran it again at log level 4 and got the following. It looks like the program isn't finding the .properties file where it's expecting it, and I'm not sure where to look to find it. There is a SageTV.properties file in /Program Files/SageTV/SageTV, but it looks like that only has config stuff in it, not the actual TV program data.

Unfortunately it also failed to find it on TVDB the first time, and now it looks like I have to wait for at least more than 13 minutes before I can try again to get a log file that might have more about why TVDB failed as well. That one is my fault though, I had a the tvdb override left in the file from the example. I've fixed that and will try again when I get home for that part.