[CONCEPT] Concrete

how would you go about doing that? several conditional animations on the single item in the <itemlayout>? and what would that condition be?
I mean without doing a custom layout using the coverflow technique, and not having static content.

watzen Wrote:how would you go about doing that? several conditional animations on the single item in the <itemlayout>? and what would that condition be?
without doing a custom layout using the coverflow technique...I mean, and not have static content.

what i'm refering to, is indeed the coverflow technique.

i've played with fade in/out animations in the past and they work pretty well in this case.

ronie Wrote:what i'm refering to, is indeed the coverflow technique.

i've played with fade in/out animations in the past and they work pretty well in this case.

I was referring to jm's post.
In the coverflow technique, everything works... but with a messy code and sometimes poor mousefunctionality.

jmarshall Wrote:You could try a fade animation based on which "slot" you're in in the list.

That's what I've been looking for, but can't seem to find it... how can I know the position of the item in the list?

You want to know the slot number, not the item number. I was thinking of Container.Position, but it works the wrong way around. As I re-think about it, it's not currently possible, as the listitem doesn't actually know where the list is when it's being rendered. Not sure of a nice way around that one.

You could probably do it if you have a static set of items (i.e. that never change) as you could fade them based on what has focus. Would be kinda icky though!

Cheers,
Jonathan

jmarshall Wrote:You want to know the slot number, not the item number. I was thinking of Container.Position, but it works the wrong way around. As I re-think about it, it's not currently possible, as the listitem doesn't actually know where the list is when it's being rendered. Not sure of a nice way around that one.

You could probably do it if you have a static set of items (i.e. that never change) as you could fade them based on what has focus. Would be kinda icky though!

Cheers,
Jonathan

I'll have to look into all this, for now I'll just keep them all faded

Back to the kerning issue... I modified the metrics of the entire font (meaning the letters have less white space at the sides) and that turned up pretty good, excepts for a few pairs (for example AV). For those, I tried to modify the kerning pairs, but that had no effect on the rendering of the fonts in XBMC.

Is it possible that currently xbmc desn't support kerning pairs?

Correct.

jmarshall Wrote:You want to know the slot number, not the item number. I was thinking of Container.Position, but it works the wrong way around. As I re-think about it, it's not currently possible, as the listitem doesn't actually know where the list is when it's being rendered. Not sure of a nice way around that one.

You could probably do it if you have a static set of items (i.e. that never change) as you could fade them based on what has focus. Would be kinda icky though!

Cheers,
Jonathan

jm, could itemlayout be changed (i.e., at the xbmc/developer level, not by skinning) so that a call to listitem.[property] from within itemlayout grabs the "current" unfocused item instead of the selected item? Would be a huge help for both Concrete and the Revamp list view that I am working on for Aeon.

It already does. You just can't actually set any properties, right?

jmarshall Wrote:It already does. You just can't actually set any properties, right?

No, for example, if I wanted to call substring(listitem.videoresolution,720) from within itemlayout, it will return the videoresolution of the selected item -- which is weird, because if I just make listitem.videoresolution the info for a label control, it works as it should.