[MOD] xTV SAF (Spouse Acceptance Factor)

Hi again I'm such and idiot I should have just played around a bit more before bugging you. The letter "M" brings up the player control menu in all skins including xTV. So I just told Remote Buddy to map the key "m" to my play/pause button on the Apple Remote and its works perfectly in all skins. I'm now a happy guy I have your skin with controls an applescript to launch eyetv successfully and the wife can't really screw it up. Its going to be a good day. Thanks again for your help and keep up the good work.

Cheers David.

wyrm Wrote:bubbanc,

Not skin related, but something to do with XBMC itself. Goto settings menu and change setting "Appearance->File list->Show parent folder items" to on. If that does not help it may be something has changed in your advancedsettings.xml file (located in xbmc/userdata directory) to change xbmc behaviour.

Wyrm (xTV-SAF)

Thanks, I should have checked another skin first. I verified that setting was set. Nothing has changed in my AdvancedSettings.xml either. I've even tried toggling it off/on. I even tried a nightly from last night and still got it (even with another skin). Perhaps it's a bug with the nighties themselves but nobody on their IRC channel seems to care, nor can I find any threads about it elsewhere. Oh well, thanks for the info either way!

Update: Found a Trac on it: http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/12116 They are saying that there is no parent folder for TV Shows, so that's why its not showing it. So now I can't figure out how to get into Files... any ideas?

bubbanc Wrote:Thanks, I should have checked another skin first. I verified that setting was set. Nothing has changed in my AdvancedSettings.xml either. I've even tried toggling it off/on. I even tried a nightly from last night and still got it (even with another skin). Perhaps it's a bug with the nighties themselves but nobody on their IRC channel seems to care, nor can I find any threads about it elsewhere. Oh well, thanks for the info either way!

Update: Found a Trac on it: http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/12116 They are saying that there is no parent folder for TV Shows, so that's why its not showing it. So now I can't figure out how to get into Files... any ideas?

bubbanc,

Yep, noticed the same thing just the other day(recent change to XBMC pre Eden). Anyway, there are a number of ways to get to Files, try one of the following:

1. Use horizontal home menu (in skin/general settings). Under 'Video' heading of home menu is a 'Files' entry. Guess what that does?

2. Under "Skin/Media sources" setting menu select one of the video type library entry points and click the button. Should now see a requester showing the various ways to enter the library, select "files". This basically gives you what you used to have under Dharma when you selected library mode off.

Wyrm (xTV-SAF)

wyrm Wrote:bubbanc,

Yep, noticed the same thing just the other day(recent change to XBMC pre Eden). Anyway, there are a number of ways to get to Files, try one of the following:

1. Use horizontal home menu (in skin/general settings). Under 'Video' heading of home menu is a 'Files' entry. Guess what that does?

2. Under "Skin/Media sources" setting menu select one of the video type library entry points and click the button. Should now see a requester showing the various ways to enter the library, select "files". This basically gives you what you used to have under Dharma when you selected library mode off.

Wyrm (xTV-SAF)

Thanks again for your help and suggestions. I don't seem to have a horizontal menu item (running 1.1.1 xTV). Also, the #2 suggestion isn't ideal since I only need to use Files if something hasn't been scraped properly. Otherwise, for ease of use for the wife, I'd just assume that "TV Shows" take me to TV Shows. Any other workarounds/shortcuts you can think of to get to Files?

Thanks again,
Brian

bubbanc Wrote:Thanks again for your help and suggestions. I don't seem to have a horizontal menu item (running 1.1.1 xTV). Also, the #2 suggestion isn't ideal since I only need to use Files if something hasn't been scraped properly. Otherwise, for ease of use for the wife, I'd just assume that "TV Shows" take me to TV Shows. Any other workarounds/shortcuts you can think of to get to Files?

Thanks again,
Brian

bubbanc,

Well first of all sport, you are running a nightly (pre-Eden) version of XBMC you might as well be running the nightly version of the skin. 1.1.1 was written very early in the pre-Eden series and so is missing a LOT of changes to the skin to keep it current with the nightlies. One of the biggest changes to XBMC was to drop the idea of file/library mode. Now files are just one of the nodes in the library (there is no File mode anymore, but you can still look at files thru the library). Really you have two choices, downgrade XBMC to Dhrama 10.1 or upgrade the skin to v1.1.2. See the first post of this thread for details on how to load 1.1.2 version of the skin via the Passion repo.

As a side note, at this stage I'm almost 100% positive that there will NOT be a 1.1.2 version of the skin for Dharma. Eden is now in feature freeze and is likely to come out sometime around the formal release of the skin. That and there have been a LOT of changes to the skinning engine that would mean that there would be a LOT of work to make the current skin compatible with Dharma.

Wyrm (xTV-SAF)

wyrm Wrote:bubbanc,

Well first of all sport, you are running a nightly (pre-Eden) version of XBMC you might as well be running the nightly version of the skin. 1.1.1 was written very early in the pre-Eden series and so is missing a LOT of changes to the skin to keep it current with the nightlies. One of the biggest changes to XBMC was to drop the idea of file/library mode. Now files are just one of the nodes in the library (there is no File mode anymore, but you can still look at files thru the library). Really you have two choices, downgrade XBMC to Dhrama 10.1 or upgrade the skin to v1.1.2. See the first post of this thread for details on how to load 1.1.2 version of the skin via the Passion repo.

As a side note, at this stage I'm almost 100% positive that there will NOT be a 1.1.2 version of the skin for Dharma. Eden is now in feature freeze and is likely to come out sometime around the formal release of the skin. That and there have been a LOT of changes to the skinning engine that would mean that there would be a LOT of work to make the current skin compatible with Dharma.

Wyrm (xTV-SAF)

Ahh, thanks man. Sorry for all the newb questions. Running the version from SVN now. I like the horizontal menu; only thing missing that I can tell is that the current temp doesn't show at the top with the time (even though its enabled). Temp does show if I enable weather and navigate to weather (but I never navigate there; I'd just like to see the temp when on the home screen). I also cannot seem to add a custom add-on (Pandora) as I did in 1.1.1. When I go to select media source, I don't see Pandora (only HGTV and Youtube). I was able to copy the settings from guisettings.xml from the non-svn version and this sort-of works. Pandora now shows under Music->Add-ons and not in it's own menu; it even shows the Music folder even though I didn't select it in home folder settings (Pandora does get it's own entry and Music menu does not show if I disable horizontal menu). Not a biggie, and at least I can get to Files

BTW, another way to get to Files is to add a Favorite (you probably know this, but others may not). Just add this to favourites.xml. (I assume this works for everyone):

Thanks again for your work on this and sorry for taking all my xbmc-newbness out on your thread !
Brian

bubbanc Wrote:Ahh, thanks man. Sorry for all the newb questions. Running the version from SVN now. I like the horizontal menu; only thing missing that I can tell is that the current temp doesn't show at the top with the time (even though its enabled). Temp does show if I enable weather and navigate to weather (but I never navigate there; I'd just like to see the temp when on the home screen). I also cannot seem to add a custom add-on (Pandora) as I did in 1.1.1. When I go to select media source, I don't see Pandora (only HGTV and Youtube). I was able to copy the settings from guisettings.xml from the non-svn version and this sort-of works. Pandora now shows under Music->Add-ons and not in it's own menu; it even shows the Music folder even though I didn't select it in home folder settings (Pandora does get it's own entry and Music menu does not show if I disable horizontal menu). Not a biggie, and at least I can get to Files

bubbanc,

Horizontal menu is a work in progress. I don't really like it as I think it is not very child friendly, but the information density is much higher than vertical menu. That said it's this high information density that will make it next to impossible to show weather info as on vertical menu (just no room to show it anywhere).

Yes, I know about the plugin issue for favourite addons (hint at the moment if you use the first slot of custom addons you can assign that to a plugin, which I think Pandora is). Thinking on how best to handle assigning scripts or plugins to the custom menu postions, so this will no doubt change as I go along. Still playing with the horizontal menu, so there will be changes to this as well. Thinking about it I will add a 'Video' entry to the vertical home menu so that you could entry file node of library from there.

Still adding features for v1.1.2 release and still playing with features that are currently there, so skin is still in a bit of a state of flux. Hopefully will settle down soon.

Quote:BTW, another way to get to Files is to add a Favorite (you probably know this, but others may not). Just add this to favourites.xml. (I assume this works for everyone):

Code:

<favourite name="Files" thumb="DefaultFolder.png">ActivateWindow(10025,&quot;sources://video/&quot;)</favourite>

Thanks again for your work on this and sorry for taking all my xbmc-newbness out on your thread !
Brian

Yes I did consider mentioning this but was not sure if people where up for it. You might have noticed that I have provided a number of smart playlists to filter what is shown in the library. Not sure, but I think you could also setup a playlist to do the same. Maybe a side project for you to go investigate the smart playlists and see just what you can filter on.

Wyrm (xTV-SAF)

hi wyrm
looking forward for next release
about Horizontal menu, is that similar to wrap view ??

lipo Wrote:hi wyrm
looking forward for next release
about Horizontal menu, is that similar to wrap view ??

lipo,

No not really, more like this . Still a work in progress and also the main reason that I have not ported to XBox yet. When I have something that I am happy with will port the whole lot over to XBox. Too many differences between Eden and XBox to keep making changes for both platforms, so I intend to do the required changes once (as if, but a guy can dream)

Wyrm (xTV-SAF)

wyrm,

Quick question. I turned on the TV this morning and XBMC was stuck in screensaver dim mode and wouldn't get out of it; not a big deal because I know I can restart XBMC to fix this. When I was navigating around, the highlighted/selected item worked normally on the main menu, but when I go to Movies or TV Shows, I could no longer see what show or directory was highlighted; as I moved around I could see the show description/image change, but the show was not highlighting. I tried restarting XBMC, toggling skins, everything and could not fix the issue. I went back to non-SVN version and the highlights were back. It's really bizarre that the highlighted/selected items worked for Settings menu, and all the settings, just not for TV Shows (or sub dirs thereof) or Movies.

Any ideas on this on? I know it's bizarre. SVN was working fine up until last night. Nothing changed on my end; running a nightly from October. I was thinking there may be some image cache I needed to blow away, but couldn't find anything digging around. Let me know if you want me to take a picture so you can see what I mean.

Thanks,
Brian