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"Tricking" XBMC into retrieving art, plot info etc. for HD & BD Titles? - CanadaPhil - 2010-08-19 22:55
I am new to XBMC after playing around with various MCE setups and I am just loving it so far. I cannot believe how this tiny little thing is breathing new life into my old SD DVD collection which I had considered "unwatchable" even when playing them in a high end player such as a Toshiba XA2. The available adjustments for video de-interlacing & aspect size re-scaling are just incredible. I have not even seen this level of adjustment in high end commercial systems! Hats off to the XBMC team!!
OK, I have given up on the idea of archiving all of my current 450+ HD-DVD and Bluray titles (at least for now). It is really pointless given my families lifestyle. What I really find is a more workable solution is to just archive my remaining 275 odd SD DVD collection to an external 2TB USB HDD connected to my patched Apple TV. I am going to be getting another (2) Apple TV's and doing the exact same thing.. Just adding their own local external 2TB HDD and duplicating the content. For us, this is a perfect solution for the Master Bedroom and Rec. Rooms. I do NOT want to stream content from one location.
I have been attempting to "trick" the setup into just retrieving Cover or Poster Art and plot/cast info for the High Definition titles with mixed results, as it will always want to see VIDEO files in folders. The idea I have is that SD versions of kids animated movies or SD titles that have not been (and probably never will be replaced) with HD DVD or Bluray versions can play instantly, but we want to still view and scroll through our high definition collection using the GUI. The physical discs will all be kept on the main floor in a central location which is within 20 paces to all of the other areas in question. We dont mind getting a little exercise!
I would appreciate any ideas or insight into how I can accomplish this.
I even thought about moving someting like a little THX or other sound demo clip that would play if someone were to inadvertantly select the play button when looking at a Bluray or HD title in the GUI.
I would like to get away from MyMovies. We actually like the idea of just using IMDB and now prefer veiwing the Poster Art as opposed to actual cover scans.
Hope I didnt confuse everyone.
Thanks in advance!
- Philmatic - 2010-08-19 23:02
ou can just create dummy files and place them on the hard drive, XBMC scanning doesn't really peek into the file before retrieving the metadata, any file named with the title of the movie should work.
Or you can just create any file of zero bytes (Open notepad, save a blank doc) and then rename it to the movie you would like to list.
- Flomaster - 2010-08-19 23:19
create an NFO file for each title with the IMDB or TMDB url link in it
take a look at this
Flomaster Wrote:you could create an NFO file with a link to IMDB and it would use that nfo file and pull the proper info.
- CanadaPhil - 2010-08-20 00:12
Thanks for those quick responses!!
I will give those a try a little later today or tommorrow and let you know how it worked out. Could it be that easy? LOL
I had easily created lists in the VIDEO-FILES screens that simply grabbed the previously archived MyMovies covers. That was simple enough, but it seemed no amount of massaging would get IMBD or the other English lookups to retrieve more ususable info.
Then I had tried placing a few dummy video files with the proper folder names,etc. but it seemed that when I deleted the dummy video (to save space obviously) the system would respond by no longer wanting to do anything with that folder on the next library lookup. I forgot the exact error messages, but it had something to with it not "seeing a valid video file"???
Anyway, I have only been playing with my new setup a few days know, but this thing has great potential.
I dont know how I had overlooked XBMC all these years !?!?!?!
Just an fyi... Anyone remember ESCIENT and their VISION series... (they are now defunct!) I am not kidding when I say that their $ 5,000 VS100 server could not even compare to my simple little $ 375 2TB AppleTV/XBMC! Its no wonder that the former giants in the media server market... Escient, Imerge and may others have been going under in 2010.
- JDizzy - 2010-08-20 01:35
I don't think you mentioned how you are archiving your SD DVDs.
If they are just the original vob files ripped from the DVD with something like DVD Shrink, (VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders). Just name the folder that contains these 2 folders the name of the movie.
I would suggest using Ember Media Manager to scrape the movies as it is configurable as to what it keeps. I just gave it the path to my movies and it just did its thing getting cover, fanart, and nfo files for all my movies without my intervention.
It is here: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=50348
- CanadaPhil - 2010-08-20 02:04
OK, I have given the suggestions a try but still NO JOY.
It seems the thing wants to see some actual video files just as my previous attempts ended up as. However, that is not the goal. I want to simply archive my SD DVD's and just catalog my HD DVD's and Blurays in the GUI.
Content is set to scrape IMDB and when I attempt the scans it just goes through the folder lickety split and doesn't report any new titles??
I do in fact have all my movies archived as VOB files (Audio & Video Folders). I have always preferred various versions of DVDCLONER and have 1:1 rips.
I may play around a bit more this evening and make a few more trial and error attempts.
- CanadaPhil - 2010-08-20 02:42
PARTIAL SUCCESS !!!
OK... a glimmer of hope now.
After re-reading the wiki, I saw that because my files are in fact archived as VOB's, I had to rename the .nfo file accordingly and have it in the VIDEO_TS Folder. Here is the passage from the wiki...
movie.nfo will override all and any nfo files in the same folder as the media files if you use the "Use foldernames for lookups" setting. If you don't, then moviename.nfo is used. If there is only one nfo file in a folder, The scraper will use it for all media files in that folder. If there are multiple media files in a folder, the *.nfo should be named exactly the same as the video file it is representing (ie. moviename.avi and moviename.nfo). In the case of multi-part (stacked) video stacking, name the file either moviename.nfo or moviename-CD1.nfo where the first filename is moviename-CD1.avi. Note, if your movie is ripped as VOB's and stored in a 'VIDEO_TS' folder, you will have to name the file VIDEO_TS.nfo and place it in the same directory with the VIDEO_TS.ifo file.
Additionally the 'set' tag can be used to help sort movies that are part of a series or collection (ie Harry Potter, James Bond films). This sort of collection tagging must be done in the .NFO file before the movie is scanned into the library.
I used that Brotherhood of the Wolf example noted previously as that is in fact one of my HD DVD imports. When I re-started XBMC, the IMDB scrape did pick up the Brotherhood poster, plot info, trailer, fanart etc.
So that is start of the battle. Now the next problem is that if someone hits the PLAY button, the system will return the Boxee/XBMC error page and exit back out to the Apple TV screen since there are obviously NO valid video files to play and the whole point is to not waste any space on large dummy files.
I had always envisioned that as part of this process, I would need some small dummy video file that would in fact briefly play if someone inadvertantly selects PLAY. I had thought about something like an easily identifiable trailer, like that newer THX audio intro ((Can be found on the Avatar Standard Def. DVD... It is named VTS_06_01 for those that have Avatar ripped as VOB)).
I am not sure how to make this happen. That is just a simple MPEG clip that can easily be played if selected from within a file directory, but I am not sure how to make it happen in this scenario.
Any suggestions on the above, or any cool (and short) clip that any of you have used that could be possibly be used in this application?? Ideally, something with a BluRAy or HD DVD logo would be perfect in order to remind the person that the title they have selected must actually be manually played by putting the physical disc in a player.
- JDizzy - 2010-08-20 04:17
CanadaPhil Wrote:PARTIAL SUCCESS !!!
I see, this is for your HD stuff that you have on disk.....
You could have your folder called Brotherhood of the Wolf. Inside that folder you could put the VTS_06_06.vob clip, but rename it Brotherhood of The Wolf.vob
Don't have any other folders in that folder!
After scraping, you would end up with:
Brotherhood of the Wolf.tbn (thumb of the DVD cover)
Brotherhood of the Wolf-fanart.jpg (fanart)
Brotherhood of the Wolf.nfo (info file for movie)
Brotherhood of the Wolf.vob (the clip or trailer)
As I said, I use Ember to scrape and then copy the movie folder over to XBMC. That way, I have more control over it. I know Ember will do it by saying each folder has a single movie in it and use the folder name.
I think you could do it through XBMC by just having:
Brotherhood of the Wolf (folder)
Brotherhood of the Wolf.vob (inside the folder)
Regardless, it will be a somewhat tedious process.
- pecinko - 2010-08-20 23:42
CanadaPhil Wrote:I would like to get away from MyMovies. We actually like the idea of just using IMDB and now prefer veiwing the Poster Art as opposed to actual cover scans.
Why would you want that? Can't you use MM scraper in XBMC?
- CanadaPhil - 2010-08-21 15:13
pecinko Wrote:Why would you want that? Can't you use MM scraper in XBMC?
Simple, we now prefer to see the actual POSTER ART and not DVD covers.
Also, while MyMovies is great, you need to maintain an account in order to achieve enough points to be able to activate the MyMovies scraper or PAY for it as a commercial type license.
IMDB does everything I need without any additional hassle so to speak.